Web 2.0 Design Patterns, Models and Analysis

A sequence diagram to explain tagging? Really?

Waaaaay too basic. Expected a lot more insight.

Sorry guys. Yes - way more basic than we did in the book but given the fact only about ten people in the audience actually had architectural experience dealing with patterns, reference models and reference architectures, I had to keep it at a higher level. The insight is in the book but if you want to discuss over beers, I can show you about 9 variations of how to link FOL and upper ontologies like SUMO and DOLCE into tags. The sequence diagrams for how human thinking processes use cognitive skills, relate those to metadata constructs in their conceptual domains and results in applying a tag (in one of more than 8 binary relationship types including reflexive, co-reflexive, irreflexive, transitive, intransitive, symmetric, asymmetric, et al) probably would have confused people.

Happy to talk more about it in person. The talk did promise to parley the knowledge into a simple format to capture it.

;-)

BTW - the previous comment was from me (just to clear up confusion). Thought I was logged in.

Makes sense. Being one of those architects, I will be looking at the book. Thanks...

To the first commenter:

Why do you think the level of complexity of a diagram. UML is used for a multitude of models and diagrams. I think you over react perhaps?

Wir hatte die Session Genfunden mit kein problem. It was what we needed to show Siemens what Web 2 is all about. This should have been longer and in more detial. Too much information for a one hour session.

Also we coudl not log in to this site with our username and password. We think it is broken.

H und Fr.

Duane, was a great session, pretty enough to thinking about it and buy the book if I'm intresd about it. Just one thing: smile sometimes, you got a very cute face, just to serious :)

>Why do you think the level of complexity of a diagram. UML is used for a multitude of models and diagrams. I think you over react perhaps?

Main thing about tagging is not the process or the sequence of action. The diagram is right but I don't think it can help anyone (especialy business user) to understand tagging, showing a tag cloud is much better in my opinion. Before you ask I'm an architect an knows about UML/design pattern.

Awesome session Buying book the moment it comes out.

You ae very cute. Are you married? I saw a ring?

Deseo tener sus niños. Oh sí - usted presentación era muy bueno. Sexy!!!

Muchacho muchoºmucho atractivo

Gina, Anonymous:

I m truly flattered and blushing right now. O do not speak catalan/spanich so I have no idea what the last comment reads.

Aurelien:

Please understand that while it may be obvous to you, it is not to others. The concept that tags come form the ontological region (Conceptual domain) is very important to recognize. One of the main critics of folksonomies (tagging) is their lack of links to upper and mid level ontologies. I would like to invite you to contact me at duane at nickull.net to allow me to send you the chapter of the book that illustrates the concept of ontology and how important it is to Web 2.0. While it seem simplistic at first, linking a tag to a conceptual domain means that each persons element (tag) might have a differing meanging. PLease give this concept a chance. Of course, i you still think I have not clue as to wht I am talking about, I am happy to personally refund your costs of the book should you purchase it.

Tag clouds are the "View" part of the MVC equation and do not fully account for the human thinking process of how to tag something.

Duane

Where can I get the slides? I need to present this subject.

UML is the best language to use to convey concepts. Neither the simplicity or complexity matter. UML is unambiguous. That is why it should be used. I gave this two thumbs up

concur!

Please email dnickull at adobe.com to get a copy of the slides.

Nice site!